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Plant: Dog Rose (Rosa canina) | Variety: Kiese

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This is an old German rose, hybrid canina by Kiese 1904. Disease free. Blooms once. Great hips! This is a large shrub rose that has strong long canes which are thornless. It is referred to commonly as a dog rose, which I refer to as ‘wild’ in looks like our wild nootka rose in the NW.. Flower is a single, dark pink-magenta with yellow eye, blooms June through August. Hardy-Z.6b-9b.
“Flowers are magenta—red with yellow centre, simple, wild rose flower, abundant, flowers once Foliage shiny dark green Habit broad, bushy, upright, overhanging, strong shoots, up to 250 cm tall, many hips .” A little history info below.

http://www.rosarosam.com/articles/harald_enders/early_germany_05.htm

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Dog Rose (17)
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Kiese (3)

Purchased from Sunny Farms

gardenbs's Rose- 'Kiese' Care Instructions

Dog Rose 'Kiese' normally grows to a mature height of 2.50 metres (that's 8.12 feet imperial) so ensure you have enough space in your garden for this plant.

Your garden has don't know light - try to position in a partial sun location instead.

Remember to water moderately.

Your garden's USDA Hardiness Zone (8b) is within the ideal range for Dog Rose 'Kiese'. The recommended range is between Zone 4 and 9.

More information about Rose- 'Kiese' is available in the Folia gardener's wiki. All Rose- 'Kiese' Care Instructions have been kindly provided by our members.

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  • Tomartyr

    Tomartyr wrote:

    Wow! What an interesting rose! You sent me scrambling for the textbooks and to the ‘net! But in doing so, I found as many questions as answers! Firstly, as you say in your plant description, ’Kiese’ is a Dog Rose (Rosa canina ) hybrid. Therefore, it is not a Rugosa (Rosa rugosa) hybrid, which is the classification in which you have placed it within the Folia database. The correct placement for it is here. Secondly, I am very interested in your photo of the rose, as it is very definitely pink, rather than the “cherry red” which is the authoritative description (“Botanica’s Roses” and HelpMeFind, although the Botanica description does say that it fades. The third thing I noticed is that you established the variety ‘Kiese’ under ‘Climbing Rose Rosa setigera var. tomentosa, although you haven’t classified your rose thus. My research hasn’t identified any cultivar of Rosa setigera var. tomentosa named ‘Kiese’ and of course the same rose cannot belong to more than one species (certainly not as we know that the parents of ‘Kiese’ were (1) the species rose Rosa canina and (2) Rosa ‘General Jacqueminot’. Incidentally, Rosa canina ‘Kiese’, although acknowledged as being suitable to train as a pillar rose, is classified as a shrub rose. I would love to hear your comments.
    Welcome to Folia. I love your description of your garden and what you are achieving there. I shall follow your progress with interest!

    Posted on 25 Jun 11 (almost 2 years ago)

  • gardenbs

    gardenbs wrote:

    Okay, I was speaking from no expertise on this rose, as the label received only had Rose, German, Kiese, rosa canina. End of information. I too went online to see if I could learn more. I have sent you some links below. By what I have read and what I have observed about this rose I believe the following is a pretty accurate description. The term ‘dog rose’, might be better understood if we take a more literal translation, using the word, ‘wild’. This rose looks very much like a wild Nootka rose. Modern roses came from the wild at some point. This rose has the look and smell of a wild rose, which we have surrounding us here in the Olympic Mountains. Because it has been hybridized, it has hardly any thorns. Yet this rose’s canes grows with gusto, strong and long, thus, why I called it a climber, should of called it a shrub. It does not have the classification of a climber, you’re right. But it has the energy of one! No it is not a rugosa, but has hips like a wild rugosa, large and red. Authoritative sources are just that, sources of information, the color is not red. Colors are a funny item to agree on, almost no one will see one color the same. I learned that in teaching art for 25 years. So there you have it. I hope the new clarifications are somewhat helpful. Sorry I got you scrambling for the books.
    Below are some quotes and sources:

    Flowers fiery blood-red with yellow centre, simple, wild rose flower, abundant, flowers once Foliage shiny dark green Habit broad, bushy, upright, overhanging, strong shoots, up to 250 cm tall, many hips. quoted from:(http://lve-baumschule.de/en/node/4616) The color is not what I would call blood-red, but I agree with the rest of the quote. Color is more like the following site: http://www.rosarosam.com/articles/harald_enders/early_germany_05.htm

    Posted on 25 Jun 11 (almost 2 years ago)

  • Tomartyr

    Tomartyr wrote:

    Hey, don’t be sorry about getting me “scrambling for the textbooks”! That is how we learn, and I’ve learnt a whole lot today about a rose I hadn’t ever heard of previously. Thank you!

    Posted on 25 Jun 11 (almost 2 years ago)

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