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Wanted: Carob 'Ceratonia siliqua'

Monday, 22 Aug 11 Sunny 23°C / 73°F

Any one here in Australia with some Carob seeds available? I’m after 50 or so, but will gratefully accept any quantity — of course!

Additionally, does any-one know of any trees that are growing in parks, nature strips, backyards around Melbourne? I understand they are grown as street trees in some of the inland areas, I’m hoping there are some here as well.

(posting to the oz swap group as well)

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  • redcrystal

    redcrystal wrote:

    I’m curious why do you need 50?? lol sounds like a big project what ever it is :)
    I have 6 seeds. I want to grow them, but I don’t really think I have room for one, do you want them?
    You can buy them on www.thelostseed.com.au there is only 22 in a pack though.

    Posted on 23 Aug 11 (about 3 years ago)

  • graibeard

    graibeard wrote:

    So I can start a food forest – perhaps even in this life time, with a bit of luck and a heck of a push! :-)

    I understand they are not the best germinators, they are dioecious so the male plants will be culled and/or I want to see how grafting goes with them. They have a strong taproot and starting them as potted seedlings may lead to an even higher failure rate, but I won’t know if I don’t try. And… You can never have too much overkill.

    Thanks for the offer and if nothing else eventuates I may well take you up on it.
    I’ve found the seeds in quantity at greenharvest and edenseeds but I’m wondering if there is a closer source and one that has them in abundance, and at a better — shall we say — price?
    I can buy them, but it means bending rule #1 of the budget (Honour the ancestors, by demonstrating frugality they [Scots] would approve of) and we are being particularly pedantic on that point at the moment!

    Posted on 23 Aug 11 (about 3 years ago)

  • redcrystal

    redcrystal wrote:

    I didn’t know they were male/female lol see I’d have been in trouble if I grew them :o I really don’t have the space here, they get really big yeah?
    You’re more than welcome to them.
    I am looking forward to trying to grow the Japanese Rasin Tree myself :) I better research if they’re a male/female. It’s a big tree too I think…(I need a farm)

    I’m all for frugal/budget. Seems food prices are going up and up as is electricity etc, so no matter how frugal we’re being the money still seems to evaporate :/

    Posted on 23 Aug 11 (about 3 years ago)

  • graibeard

    graibeard wrote:

    Need a farm, hmmm… :-)
    Apparently you can get Hermaphrodites but that means grafted stock, which means finding a source of budwood – I’ll stick with the seeds at the moment as that’s the first step. They do get big, 10 metres x 10 metres, definitely farm territory!

    I’ll check on the Japanese Raisin Tree, it sounds interesting. I know I like Carob though, and it’s a versatile food/tree.
    Ah, Raisin at greenharvest

    Posted on 23 Aug 11 (about 3 years ago)

  • LillyPilly

    LillyPilly wrote:

    Do you know anyone in Adelaide?

    “Carobs, where once planted as a favourite street tree in the Barossa Valley, where today tonnes of Carob fruits could be picked from their street trees…There are some fine seedling varieties in the Adelaide Parklands and the avenue of Carobs on Barton Terrace opposite the Piccadilly Theatre, has some very tasty fruits. The best locally available cultivar is the self-pollinating hermaphrodite Tunisian ‘Sfax’, but backyard Permiculture growers are selecting some very sweet fleshy forms that are bound to become more popular in future. They are budding male scions to female rootstocks, since most Carobs have male and female flowers on separate trees, except for ‘Sfax’ and ‘Santa Fe’.” http://www.greenfingers.com.au/services/digging_deeper/Fruits_and_Nuts.htm

    Posted on 23 Aug 11 (about 3 years ago)

  • graibeard

    graibeard wrote:

    Ah, Malcolm Campbell! Some good reading there.
    Unfortunately no to Adelaide, it sounds like paradise! We tried to get some pods from a health food shop today but couldn’t find them for love nor money, in fact one of the proprietors made the comment “I haven’t seen any for ages, I must chase some up”.

    Posted on 24 Aug 11 (about 3 years ago)

  • kristiecav

    kristiecav wrote:

    they are planted all over in Mudgee. Come for a wine/olive/carob tree tour. I’ll find out off our resident local mad seed collector if he has any seed. Will keep you posted. we tend to sell loads of them at the nursery as wind breaks. So tough.

    Posted on 28 Aug 11 (about 3 years ago)

  • graibeard

    graibeard wrote:

    Ah, excellent. I keenly await your follow up, and as quietly and squirm patiently as I can……. are we there yet?

    Posted on 28 Aug 11 (about 3 years ago)

  • kristiecav

    kristiecav wrote:

    No joy, got an email this morning and they haven’t collected them for ages either. Petrie Seeds (local seed collectors http://www.rpseeds.com.au/) don’t have any which is weird. If you don’t find any let me know because we can just harvest them from the trees at the local parks at the end of the season. a lesson in patience!

    Posted on 28 Aug 11 (about 3 years ago)

  • graibeard

    graibeard wrote:

    Argh. Edenseeds have them in bulk so I’ll give them a try…

    When’s harvest time? March, April? I’ll make a note and send you a reminder then, just in case. Thanks for the follow up.

    Posted on 28 Aug 11 (about 3 years ago)

  • kristiecav

    kristiecav wrote:

    Yes, sometime in autumn, there’s pods hanging off them every year.

    Posted on 28 Aug 11 (about 3 years ago)

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