Using untreated wood for flagstones
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Okay, I’ll ask for some creative solutions!
I’m planning a path through the middle of my yard which will end up being about 80-90 linear feet, maybe 3 feet wide, and after pricing flagstones I know that isn’t going to happen. The precast things from Home Depot are hideous. So I was thinking, I have the stumps of all the largest branches from my fallen ornamental pear curing in the garage. Can I get these “sliced” and then use them for flagstones? How long will they last before they start to rot into the lawn? Would I need to prepare the bed the way you do for any walk? (Sand, level, etc.) What could I interplant that you can walk on, since I don’t have enough to lace them super close, plus they’re round. I’m thinking I could use any saw dust generated for my root-cellar-of-myth-and-desire.
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I actually wanted to pursue this myself since we’ve got quite a few trees that needed cutting down. Unfortunately I found that to do it right, the project wouldn’t be so inexpensive or ‘green’ and would entail a lot of upkeep. Maybe another person’s perspective could help us figure out how to make it happen!
Our concerns in the long run were moisture issues. The slices would become slick after a rain and we most definitely did not want the wood sitting directly on the soil. Also, depending on the depth of the slices, they would rot over time and I’d have to have the same size slice to replace the original.
To keep the wood from rotting (since it’s not pressure treated), we figured we’d need to seal each piece. Marine-grade sealant would be the best – but it’s expensive and not green in the least. We’d even considered sprinkling sand into the finish to give it some grit and be not so slippery.
If that’s not an issue for you, I’d lay the wood just like flagstone. Dig out several inches of soil, tamp and level, fill with sand, tamp, then add some pebbles to help with drainage before setting your slices. You could use the pebbles or pea gravel as your “cement” or you could fill with topsoil. Perhaps creeping thyme as a filler? If you’re using pea gravel you may need to consider some kind of containment so the rocks don’t spill out into your lawn.
I would still love to do this if I could find a less intensive way to do it – otherwise I’m breaking out the bags of concrete and creating my own path! =)
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0 thumbs up!Posted about 4 years ago
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if you just use wood chips instead, you can inoculate them with mushroom spores. you’ll end up with some tasty treats and great compost. you can leave that compost where it is for the benefit of nearby plants, or you can toss it elsewhere in your garden and start again with new chips. fruit wood is pretty good for this sort of thing. it’s not terribly good for resisting decay. if you intend this to be a fairly temporary solution, I think your wooden flagstone plan is a good one. if you want it to last longer, there are some roughly non-toxic treatments available, but they’re expensive (seems being toxic is the easiest way to stop rot and toxic substances aren’t in terribly short supply these days), or require substantial time for curing and periodic re-treatment.
it’s not that pretty, but I’ve used chunks of busted up concrete from a patio somebody tore out. chances are good that a post on your local freecycle or craigslist would turn something like that up. new cement products (unless they’re made of fly ash) are very much less than “green”, though concrete would certainly be durable.
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I was thinking of using some wood that is in our basement, but you are right, it would get slick and be more trouble than it is worth.
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In some areas, you can contact your city or construction companies, and ask about broken-up sidewalks and similar concrete. Usually it’s free for the hauling, sometimes they’re so happy to not have to landfill it that they’ll deliver it (which is good, because it’s heavy).
You want to cherry-pick it, though… some of it looks really good upside-down, some of it looks really good rightside-up, and some of it just isn’t going to look like anything but construction trash no matter what. But if you get good stuff, you can lay it like flagstones and have it look really good.
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0 thumbs up!Posted about 4 years ago
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We opted not to use chips because the path goes through the lawn, and as long as I have lawn there’s going to be lawn mower problems with a loose chip path.
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0 thumbs up!Posted about 4 years ago
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I second everything Puu said. Spot-on observations.
Have you considered using roman chamomile or something likewise living that will tolerate foot traffic to create a path?
Or, if you know someone whose property contains a creek (like mine does) you could do what I did – flat creek rocks make a VERY nice path, and they’re free for the hauling.
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0 thumbs up!Posted about 4 years ago
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regarding stomp-tolerant plants, what used to be Under a Foot Plant Company, has a lot of great options. none of them are anywhere near affordable for anything but the smallest projects, but their website might give you some ideas for things to start from seed or otherwise propagate yourself. last time I visited, they had a great search feature that narrowed down the plants to a few that will fit the situation. if it’s a path that’s going to be used much more than once a day, you’ll probably want something more durable than a plant to take most of the abuse. if it’ll be walked on once a day or less, there are a few particularly tough plants that could probably do the job.
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0 thumbs up!Posted about 4 years ago
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That’s actually my plan for adding paths around beds as I finish delawning. We decided to go for stepping stones in a groundcover that could take some foot traffic in lieu of filling out the path with actual stones. If you’re worried about the slippage issue, you could use your wood to line the path and keep the grass from competing while the ground cover gets establish and by the time it breaks down your groundcover will be able to hold its own against the grass. Or at least it will be sufficiently establish that it will be it’s own fault if it loses to the grass…
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0 thumbs up!Posted about 4 years ago
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Here’s a picture of the path. http://www.flickr.com/photos/8416387@N08/3357242677/ You can see where we’ve been walking on it. The original idea was widely spaced flagstones with walkable ground cover, so puu thanks, as always, for terrific plant suggestions. What I need to do is just get rid of the lawn so that mowing isn’t an issue!
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0 thumbs up!Posted about 4 years ago
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Nax: Speaking from experience, one really efficient, if slow, way to get rid of the lawn is to get ducks. They don’t eat mature grass, but come spring, they’ll happily devour the tender sprouting bits as it comes out of dormancy (or tries to).
It remains to be seen whether that’ll actually kill the crabgrass we have, since as the clover and other things they like better come up they’ll be less interested in mere grass bits, but so far neither the fescue nor the crabgrass has successfully shown green for more than a day.
(And yes, that was a part of the plan. We’re overseeding with Dutch White Clover out back, anywhere there isn’t actual garden.)
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