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  • anelson Folia Supporter 580 plants United States8b

    I love growing and eating heirloom tomatoes, and I love having a big plate full of pretty tomatoes in a variety of colors as a summer centerpiece. However Seattle has short, cool summers, and my yard is on the North side of a hill and full of large trees. So far I have found some tomatoes that are tasty and tolerate my conditions, but the large ones are all green or ‘black’. Does anyone have any recommendations for large, cold tolerant, early yellow and red tomatoes? Orange?

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    I have pretty much given up growing any tomato outside of a greenhouse except for sungolds. Although they are small, they have the best flavor of any tomato that I have tried.

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    233 plants Canada5b
    I didn’t go through them all hunting for beefsteaks, but here is the list of early tomatoes on Tania’s site:

    http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Category:Early_Tomatoes
    Maybe something like Demidov, Morkovnyi, Mountain Princess???
    This should give you some short season choices.

    You could also go the dwarf tomato way & grown them in pots. Then you can move them inside or cover them easily to avoid frosts & lengthen your season…
    Some good choices for large fruited dwarf tomatoes would be
    Summertime Gold (yellow oblate)
    Yukon Quest (an oblate pink)
    Dwarf Sweet Sue (round to oblate yellow with pink blossom end)

    From memory – Northern Lights has been my earliest bi-colour. Azoychka (yellow) is early for a fairly large (non-beefsteak) tomato.

    I love the ribbing on the tomatoes in your photo. Very pretty!

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    68 plants United States6b

    Well these aren’t big, but they’re cold hardy. Siberian Tomatoes

    Contrastly, these Pink Honey are supposed to be pretty big.

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    580 plants United States8b

    Ah, it doesnt look like I’ll ever be done with tomato varieties to try! Thanks. I did grow Northern Lights last year—they were beautiful, and huge, and productive, but soft and mealy. If I picked them while they were still yellow and green the texture was okay, and the flavor mediocre.

    Agree about the flavor of sungolds not being surpassed, although I have found a few others that are comparably good. I think green grape tastes wonderful (the plant is a whiny wimp about cold or drought though), and i am also loving some of the black tomatoes, especially Black Krim, and striped tomatoes, especially Large Barred Boar, and Pink Berkeley Tie-Dye (although my PBTD is more of a green tomato with pink stripes than a pink tomato). The BK and PBTD have been reasonably early, productive and cold tolerant.

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    233 plants Canada5b

    If you like Large Barred Boar – try Arbruznyi. Yummy too! And earlier than LBB in my garden this year (: Sorry for another to add to the list!

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  • Amarylis

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    147 plants United Kingdom8a

    These varieties sound very interesting. I must try & get hold of some seeds to try on our allotment & even on my balcony at home. I’ve grown a few plants there for at least 10 years.

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    124 plants United States5

    Even though I am on the other side of the state, get hours of sunlight a day, like 12 in the summer months on the tomatoes, planted them in January in the shop, moved them to the greenhouse, planted them out with wall o waters and they are 5’ tall. I still only get a handfull of tomatoes each day. There are 9 plants I have scattered about, just not getting a lot of ripe tomatoes. It was 90 degrees yesterday and I would expect to be BURIED in tomatoes this time of year.

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    580 plants United States8b

    Nickyn—I will try arbruznyi—thanks! The ribbed tomatoes are “pineapple” and “emerald evergreen” all from seeds you sent—the funny thing is that the description and pictures of the ones you grew were not ribbed.
    arw01—do you have a lot of green ones? Or just not much fruit?
    doubledug—I’ll add those to my list to try too.

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    233 plants Canada5b

    They say that ribbing is often environmental – same with blunt hearts. Usually related to cool weather. Hopefully the seed isn’t crossed. I grew out Evergreen from the same batch of seed that I sent to you & mine are were more ribbed than last year, but not as ribbed as yours (:

    Pink Honey is a great name. That is the problem with Folia – makes me hungry.

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  • Armorel

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    Here in the UK, I’ve just started a crazy experiment.

    In early summer, before I’d even got them planted into growbags in my greenhouse, all my tomato plants died of a combination of underwatering (my fault), a dull damp chilly early season and then blight got them too.

    So I sowed a variety called ‘Glacier’ from Thompson and Morgan last last month
    http://www.thompson-morgan.com/vegetables/vegetable-seeds/tomato-seeds/tomato-glacier/676TM”:

    Planted out nine small plants in growbags last weekend and they seem to have settled in and be growing away well. They’re determinate too so I’ll just stake them and let them get on with growing.

    If we get a mild autumn and early winter, I might just get a few fruits. Last year my ‘Gardeners Delight’ were still producing a few ripe fruit at Christmas so there’s hope!

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    580 plants United States8b

    “Emerald” and “Pineapple” are now producing smooth, unribbed tomatoes so I think the ribbing was environmental. Emerald is mostly yellow when ripe though, with a sweet, citrusy flavor and slightly grainy texture—good for salads but not for eating out of hand. “Pineapple” has a nice, juicy smooth texture and is very sweet but not much else for flavor. It is super pretty with green and pink marbled flesh.
    I wonder if the differences from Nickyn’s tomatoes are environmental or simply individual genetic variation?
    I attach a photo of an Emerald Evergreen I just picked. Only a few very slightly green hints.

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    233 plants Canada5b

    My Evergreens were (and are) definitely not that yellow – more amber yellow typical of green when ripes when ready to pick. That is the shape that I got though! They are very green on the inside. Not citrusy – more of a rich almost spicy taste. Weird!

    Your pineapple sounds like a lot of my later in the summer Pineapples – some were more yellow/orange/red bicolours at the height of the season but more green later in the year. Very pretty & quietly sweet – mine were prone to splitting. I found the taste of a few of the other bi-colours more intense.

    I wonder too – environmental, genetic mutation, seed mixup?? In any case – I hope that you are enjoying them. If you grow out the Evergreen & it turns out to be a cross “Anelson” would make a great name for a tomato! Hee Hee!

    I added a pic of Grandma Oliver’s Green – this is about the yellowest I have seen Evergreen get to – but I don’t have a pic of a more yellow/amber Evergreen.

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    580 plants United States8b

    Here’s my pineapple. The texture is great. For eating out of hand I prefer a more robust flavor, but it is very sweet and good with other food.

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  • Amarylis

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    147 plants United Kingdom8a

    It’s very interesting to read about people’s opinions on these varieties of tomatoes. :-))

    @ Armorel: Your links don’t work, you have extra characters on the end of them! So I did a search on the T&M site & I found the page you referred to:

    http://www.thompson-morgan.com/vegetables/vegetable-seeds/tomato-seeds/tomato-glacier/676TM

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  • 261 plants Canada8a

    Early season reliables for me are ‘Golden Nugget’ – a yellow cherry and always the first to fruit year in, year out. ‘Yellow Taxi’ (a determinate) is usually early too and the flavour pretty good, albeit it doesn’t have the same depth/fulness as the later season ones.

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  • 264 plants Canada3a

    I would have to say that my seasons are very short, but this year was a hot summer.

    “Bison” was the earliest and produced all summer for me in a container. “Yellow Pear” and “Sweet Pea Currant” are tied for second as far as being early and productive.

    Opps, I just noticed that you’re looking for large tomato varieties. I would say Bison is a “medium”. The other 2, not so much!

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