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  • tash Folia Supporter 127 plants United States5b

    What is your favorite fresh cider apple (or blend)? Not the hard kind of cider. I do NOT like apple juice but I love good apple cider.

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  • jmahoney

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    I wish I paid more attention to the apples used in the ciders I like but I have to say I really like one with a bit of tang almost sour but still sweet.

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    yes, but how to get that? I think that is why I don’t like apple juice. it’s so blah, just a mild sweet. no real flavor….

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  • creme

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    I don’t have a favorite brand, but whenever possible I buy cider from small, organic growers who are as local as possible. I am a member of the midwest Organic Fruit Tree Association ( http://www.mosesorganic.org/treefruit/intro.htm) and last year attended a day seminar at Earth First Farms in Michigan. The family owned small farm has won multiple awards for their cider.

    Part of the seminar focused on cider, and I was fascinated to learn that while cider makers have carefully guarded personal recipes, the taste and quality of cider changes throughout the season. This is because the varieties change throughout the season, and some varieties are more plentiful at some times than others. Since then, I’ve been hoping to find a very local grower from whom I could purchase fresh cider throughout a season. There aren’t many market apple farmers in Illinois, so I might just have to start mail ordering from the Rosenfields at Earth First!

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    yeah, I grew up around the corner from a small orchard that made great cider. Unfortunately they are selling the last of their orchard (other parts were sold before now and houses built). My parents had a small orchard too and made great cider, but I don’t know what types of apples they had.

    Does anyone here make their own cider?

    creme-that is a neat website. Do you get a lot out of being a member?

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  • @tash, Here’s a blog from our company about homemade cider making.
    http://whiteharvestseed.com/blog/around-the-farm/apple-cider-fixins/

    My family owned and operated an orchard for about 20 years. We made (& still make) our own cider that received rave reviews from our customers. Our secret formula is now to be revealed! :o) In all our experience we found the blend to be key. We mixed a third of Red Delicious for aroma & sweetness, a third of Yellow Delicious for sweetness & flavor, and a third of Jonathan for that special tartness flavor. Adjusting the amounts would specialize it to our preference. Don’t just use one kind. You’ll be very disappointed.

    Getting it cooled quickly after pressing is another key factor. Creme is right about flavors changing with the season. Cider is a “waste” crop generally. They use the rejects from the sorting line or windfalls. Even the wormy ones! (That’s the secret ingredient!) One other thing to keep in mind is fresh cider can have a “cleansing” effect, if over indulged in!!

    Try this this hot summer. Get some cider. Put it in some ice trays and chop the cubes in a blender for a slush that will leave you cool, refreshed and wanting more. (Maybe even a brain freeze if you drink it too fast!)

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  • creme

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    Yum, HHH. Now I am really craving cider.

    tash, OFTA has an email discussion group that is not overly busy but can be very informative. It’s a good place to ask questions because there are a number of experienced organic fruit tree growers on the list.

    I also get discounted or free admission to their events, such as the field day I attended last year. I haven’t seen any new field days posted for this year, but there is an event at the Seed Savers Exchange orchard that I would like to try to attend.

    I have a very small backyard orchard in comparison to most of the OFTA members, most of whom are farmers. I was really gratified to feel welcomed into their good graces when I went to the field day at EarthFirst last year. (I was invited by the owner whom I’d met at GreenFest in Chicago, and signed up as a member while there). IIRC, the member fee for a backyard grower like me was really low, maybe $25. Worth it for the expert information I have access to, though I don’t remember if I have to renew annually or if it was lifetime.

    It is a regional group, so events are held all around the great lakes midwest states. I’ve seen them listed in Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan so far.

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  • puu
    305 plants United States8a

    we used Gravenstein and Jonagold. individually or blended. different enough that some folks would notice as we switched as the season went on, but both really tasty. Gravenstein juice seems a little lighter with the balance more toward tart. refreshing. Jonagold juice is both sweeter and more tart. feels good as the weather cools. some crabs in the mix add some nice mouthfeel, too, but those aren’t easy to come by.

    it’s hard to pin down, but in my experience the efficiency of the press used has a large effect on flavor. the hand cranked acme screw Happy Valley-style wooden presses have a relatively low yield and the juice is thick and dark with a serious bite that almost burns. the water bladder accordion style presses and others with high efficiency yield juice that might as well come in a juice box. in between those two is a sweet spot that isn’t too thin, has some of that great Fall sharpness, and won’t get stuck in your teeth.

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    Don’t know if this will help, but I lived in VA (major apple country) for a few years, and I really liked the cider from these two orchards: “http://www.buylocalvirginia.org/search/anx-search-detail.cfm?id=1827”: and “http://www.markermillerorchards.com/products.htm”:

    Full disclosure: I worked with/managed a Rinker family member in an unrelated-to-the-orchard job situation. But FWIW, I only realized the connection years later, after I had moved away. :)

    Maybe you could ask about their recipes/methods, if they are not too protective about it? I would be happy to provide you with an introduction to the Rinker family, if you like. There is so much other good advice in this thread that I don’t know if this is any help, but I thought I’d pitch in. :)

    Sidenote/off topic: I noticed the comment about the orchard being bought for housing developments. This was going on all around my area of VA, and was often pretty sad. So many beautiful and productive orchards with a great history and unusual apple varieties getting bulldozed to make shoddy-but-fancy McMansions and the like…then naming the development something to the tune of “Jonahgold Trails”. Blech.

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    127 plants United States5b

    Thank you hillbillyharvey!

    I never really considered ‘red delicious’ to be a good eating apple though so I don’t have it on my currant list. I do love it’s offspring ‘cameo’ however (but it is hard to find both as fruit and tree). I just got an Arkansas Black which is suppost to have great aroma.

    creme- I am not a fan of email groups, they just aren’t organized well. (the information I mean, I like things to stay together so I can easily look it up later.) The events list doesn’t have any in my area, although the SSE one sound neat.

    puu-I hadn’t thought of the press causing differences in taste. Thanks.

    growmonkey-fortunately it isn’t a development like that that is taking over the orchard near where I grew up (at least yet). here is a review. They have sold pieces of it for years, and the new owners always kept a few apple trees in the front yard. But the other day I drove by and saw that there are two signs out, one said 4 acres, the other was just below the apple sign in the drive. The area that it is in has a lot of houses, but most have a few acres each, but it’s two miles from a village that has been growing fast for 10 years at least. I don’t know if they will still be selling apples/cider in the fall, but if so I am going to try and go.

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