If my kids can’t touch it to plant it I don’t want to grow it. Honestly I haven’t had much problem with seed rot so I don’t see much point in using it.

My experience is that your seeds also have a great germination rate so that is reassurance as well. If I can grow foods as organic as I can I feel loads better eating them.

source: Wikipedia:
An ectoparasiticide is an antiparasitic drug used in the treatment of ectoparasitic infestations.¹
An example is lindane.

Acute Toxicity

Thiram is moderately toxic by ingestion, but it is highly toxic if inhaled. Acute exposure in humans may cause headaches, dizziness, fatigue, nausea, diarrhea and other gastrointestinal complaints. ⁵

Thiram is irritating to the eyes, skin and respiratory tract. It is a skin sensitizer. Symptoms of acute inhalation exposure to thiram include itching, scratchy throat, hoarseness, sneezing, coughing, inflammation of the nose or throat, bronchitis, dizziness, headaches, fatigue, nausea, diarrhea and other gastro-intestinal complaints. Persons with chronic respiratory or skin disease are at increased risk from exposure to thiram.

I suppose I am a purist. I’d rather the rot get my seeds.

Tralamander, plants can “take in” all sorts of chemicals besides CO2, water and nutrients. Absorption is how systemic herbicides like RoundUp work.

@ hillbillyharvey ~ maybe your mole/vole died of fungicide? :-P

@ Fhaith who said _"My experience is that your seeds also have a great germination rate so that is reassurance as well. If I can grow foods as organic as I can I feel loads better eating them." _ ~ Too, too very true!

Hillbillyharvey ~ Please, please continue to sell only your untreated seeds. They have germinated well and grown wonderfully :)

I’m still not sure that’s accurate, Tralamander. I am not a biologist or botanist either, but my curiosity is piqued and I will have to do some more reading.

I am now thinking of Plants that are resistant to certain pesticides and herbicides, either naturally or through vendor modification.

I have read reports that (though not the actual studies) residual glyphosate in roundup ready corn/soy is making people sick. I think we talked about this here recently. In these ass’s, plants are taking uP the chemical but it doesn’t kill them. Of course, those particular varieties are genetically engineered, but those genes had parents in nature once upon a time, right?

Anyway, I don’t know enough about the subject to comment further, at least not until learning more.

I have no experience with seed treated with Thiram, obviously, but did want to note we had a recent discussion here in the general forum regarding legumes treated with “innoculant”
THat might interest you, Harvey b

Thanks everybody for the feedback!
Orenda@ Don’t worry, we at White Harvest Seed don’t plan on adding any treated seed to our inventory.
Fhaith & creme@ Thanks for your words. There is lots of passion & wisdom there that I agree with!
Tralamander@ I think folks might benefit more if they used some old “hippy” ideas. Self-sufficient living, more health & environment awareness, neighbors helping/sharing/co-ops neighbors, and just plain respect and concern for one another. (I have to be careful here cause if I said “grow your own” it might be taken differently! lol)

Cases not asses.

Nice connections, faith! (Tucks tidbit into memory bank for future reference).

I’m quite concerned about the lack of really serious, long term testing on many chemicals. Even when tests are done, industry cover-ups happen (see: Monsanto). And then even if a company acts in good faith, and even it is stringent in testing, and even when the FDA agrees that something is safe enough to release (really this means not harmful enough to not release) – mistakes happen as we have seen in the recent reports of the newly approved lawn chemical now known to be killing off pine trees.

anelson, you know I’m curious now. Can you tell us what your job is? (Or can you tell me via pm?)

Fhaith@ Now I know why I like you so much! We have things in common………………………………… a lack of trust in corporate business.

What did you think I was going to say? LOL I would lose all my credibility on folia if I came clean! LOL

I raise my glass to credibility Cheers!

Physics is respectable Anelson!

In case you all missed it, here is a link to the discussion thread on Imperilis herbicide implicated in killing off trees that I mentioned above:

http://myfolia.com/groups/1-general-chit-chat/topics/5847-new-imprelis-herbicide-suspected-in-tree-deaths/posts#post_30191