Squash vine borers killed all my Zucchini Squash two years in a row. What works for you?
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Two years. Many Zucchini Squash plants raised. Unseen Squash Stem Borers hide till it’s too late. All plants wilt and die with a short period of time. Nothing left to salvage. Few or no Zucchini Squash result from my entire gardening effort. Serious Frustration!
I’ve read a lot about their lifecycle, silly things to try, like using a sharp knife to remove the borer from the stem, then re-root the stem, etc. What really works for you? Or have you just given up raising Zucchini and similar squash?
Like my rabbits eating all my green beans problem, I simply must settle on and implement a solution before I ever plant Zucchini outside again. And they are a bit HUGE to try growing indoors under shop lights!
1 thumbs up!Posted 10 months ago | Last edited 10 months ago -
I’ve had exactly the same thing happen to me, for the past two years. Very frustrating, I agree!!
I’m considering attempting the use of a row cover to keep the squash vine borers away from my zucchini until they start flowering – at which point I’ll have to remove the cover to let the bees in or use a paintbrush to try to pollinate them myself.
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0 thumbs up!Posted 10 months ago
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here is some advice on squash vine borers—had anyone tried any of the methods in this article?
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1 thumbs up!Posted 10 months ago
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Have you tried diatamaceous earth? I forget if I am allowed to post a link or not but I use it for a few things. I have read it helps in the garden really well. I found the info on ehow btw..
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1 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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We got wiped out in 2011 also but this year had some really good success with spraying the squash very early. Before the bugs even showed up to do their damage. We kept the plants dusted with DE and sprayed with Neem Oil at all times. They never got started chompin’ on them and we had zucchini and straightneck squash more than we’ve ever had. (This is not bragging!!!!! It is just excitement knowing I will have some zucchini fries this winter to eat compared to none last year!)
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4 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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@hillbillyharvey: That’s encouraging to hear!! I’ve heard that not all neem oil products are created equal. What brand and dilution of neem oil do you use? Thanks. :)
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1 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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I also use neem oil in general but sprinkling DE does work for me for lots of things. It works really well for lots of insects. I have also used baking soda and powdered sugar to get rid of the huge ant population in my yard. They were killing off the grass! I got that tip from my sister down south.
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3 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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I like the old farmers method wait until the middle of July to plant squash, also don’t plant it in the same place where the squash bore ate it. I lost the first two planting of squash and zuchinni and Tennessee squash to the squash bore. This planting I waited until the middle of July and move my squash a foot ball field away from the first two plantings. So far so good the flowers have started, I planted 8 seeds and they sprung up so I’m crossing my fingers and hoping for the best. Ellen from Georgia. Lost all these in the raised beds.
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2 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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@redloon: The brand we used was called GardenSafe Neem Oil Extract. We got it from Lowe’s and used 2-4 tablespoons per gallon of water. We had good luck with it on all of our veggies. It didn’t help stop the drought though! :o)
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2 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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They always seem to get my plants as well. For squash, I just do two plantings. I start them as early as possible and then about July 15th I pull them up (usually the borers will have gotten to them). Then I plant a second crop in a different spot for late harvest. Works well and I beleive I get a better end harvest out of it as older plants never seem to produce all that well anyways.
I’ve lost pumpkins every year I’ve tried to grow them early. So this year I waited until after June 30th (when most of the borer activity is done in my area). It seemed to work great, but then something happened in my raised bed and everything was wiped out (I still don’t know what it was, just within one week everything was dead with no signs of stress or damage).
I’ve also heard a lot of people that have great success by getting their squash to root in multiple areas or they’ve gone and buried the entire stem in dirt so it roots along the entire length. This doesn’t stop the borer, but allows you to cut away the part the borer got into while the plant has roots elsewhere to support itself.
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1 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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Lost my pumpkins to and the third planting of squash is really growing. I think it is best to wait until the middle of July from now on. Ellen from Georgia
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0 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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I know a lot of people that swear by Marigolds to ward off squash bugs as well as deer. The African marigolds, (T. erecta), are the best at repelling bugs. The (T.tenuifolia) are second best for bugs, and the French marigolds, (T. petula), are best at getting rid of nemotodes. Pot Marigolds (Calendula officinalis) don’t work very well. I grow Dwarf Marigolds mixed in with my tomatoes, peppers, and lettuce as a deer deterrent. I can’t say they deterred bugs because I don’t have problems with bugs. I used to be inundated with Japanese Beetles, but since I started co-planting Marigolds, I’ve not seen one. I’ve had deer get into my garden this summer and eat my beans and half a row of peppers, both without the Marigold companions. They never touched anything near the Marigolds.
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1 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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While on the subject of Squash Borers, here’s a remedy if you catch them in time.
http://www.hotwiredgardens.com/pdf/GS_-_Squash_Borer_Emergency_Surgery.pdf -
4 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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Thanks, hotwired. You are a wealth of knowledge and resources!
About those folks who wrap their squash vines with aluminum foil or panty hose – I’d like to wrap mine with flypaper to catch the original flying insect that lays the eggs! That would stop the whole destructive process at it’s very beginning.
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3 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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I tried an experiment this year because I was devastated by SVB’s and Squash Bugs last year. Marigolds certainly do help, like hotwired states. But since there was an all out profusion of them last year I was told it is best to grow them from seed to avoid the adult life cycle thing. Time is precious to me. I grew a spaghetti squash in the middle of a large chive bed in the Wellness Garden.
Not one pest problem. Very successful and picked my first spaghetti squash today.
However, I didn’t have a problem at home with them last year, and when I came home from being gone 5 days I went to pick the zucchini. Very disappointed that the buggers got to my zucchini at home. and the whole plant was just sitting there with the main stem gone. Never saw ONE SVB. Not one. Next year I’ll be planting garlic or chives with my squash in the hopes to not have any repeats. Dreaded nasty things. In my visit to Vermont they state they don’t have the issue when I spoke with the farmers and the school garden people. Maybe it’s too cold, I don’t know. I know they’ve gotten the best of my gardens last year and this year too.
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0 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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I will have to try that next year plant the squash in the middle of the garlic or chives. I hope this will work in the raised beds, this is where all these squash bores seem to live. So far the squash is thriving in it’s new location. So it is a game of wait and see. Ellen from Georgia
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1 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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This spring I grew African & French marigolds plus chives (all from seed) next to all my winter & summer squash. Nothing deterred the evil SVB’s from July onward. I even sprayed a few times with something organic & very smelly- they couldn’t have cared less. Also, in mid July, some sort of little caterpillar started boring holes into the baby squash fruit- the equal opportunity feasters ate both winter & summer varieties. I was devastated to see these poor plants working so hard in spite of the unrelenting heat, to produce babies only to lose each & every one to those wormies. I just couldn’t deal anymore once the diseases set in too- I ripped everything out but the pumpkins. Now they’ve gotten most of the baby pumpkins so, I’m feeling vanquished. I really wanted to taste a Musquee de Provence! So sad!!! Next year, I’ll start everything earlier- I didn’t plant out until late April. I’m going to aim for early March depending on the weather. Wish me luck.
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0 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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I know exactly how you feel I lost all different kinds of squash early on. Then I was reading a blog about Georgia and old time farmers here wait until mid July to plant squash. The thought is by this time no more eggs are being laid. So for my third time to plant I waited and moved from raised beds to the main garden down in the woods. So far they have really flowered and are thriving, maybe this time I will get to eat some squash. Ellen from Georgia
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1 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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I finally figured it out this year after losing dozens of zucchini plants over the last 30-40 years of gardening! I bury the vine as i pick the zucchinis. I always heap soil around the base of my tomatoes as they mature. it cuts down on weeds and the tomato plant root system grows too. So I thought why not zucchini? the vines grow new roots like crazy. I still have the borers, but I’m ahead of them.
Next year, I’m going to plant my zucchinis in a trench and fill the trench as the zucchinis mature. it should work.
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0 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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jcallAHA AHA! What a solution! My local greenhouse guy suggested that I put dirt over my Zucchini stems in as many places as possible to encourage them to have as many rooted places as possible. That goes along with your technique.
The only down side of this that I can see is that you encourage procreation of the durn little borers, so you probably will have even more of them to deal with next year.
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0 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago | Last edited 9 months ago
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Hi Jcallaha Heck it is worth a try, the only other thing next will be to poison the squash bore. I’m sure there is something at Home Depot or Lowe’s that will kill this insect. I only want to do this as a last resort when every thing else has failed, I’m trying to keep it organic but it isn’t easy. This was just a few that I lost to the squash bore. My new location seems to be working we will see. Ellen from Georgia
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0 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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So, my summer garden is pretty much over. This is because my narrow lot is surrounded by very tall trees that block almost all sunlight from now until the leaves fall in late October.
Anyway, I stopped burying the zucchini stems about two weeks ago and my vines succumbed to the borers in a few days, but for the entire summer as long as i buried the vine, no problem.
However, what to do about the borer larvae in the soil? is there a way to eradicate them?
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0 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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Hi icallah I haven’t found a way to get rid of the squash bore in my raised beds. I really thinking of using one of the chemicals you can buy at the big box stores just for squash bores. Any one have any suggestions to get rid of the squash bore organically? I have one lone squash that has survived in the raised bed I waited until after the middle of July to replant her. Only time will tell now, we have had so much rain here in North East Georgia. This will be the third day in a row of cloudy, humid and plenty of rain.The five squash I planted down near the woods have died too much rain and the green caterpillars are having a feast. Well it is okay it is all a part of gardening, I got 9 good squash before I have to pull it up. There is always next year and a bigger and better garden to look forward to. Ellen from Georgia
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0 thumbs up!Posted 9 months ago
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The larvae will overwinter in the soil and emerge in June as a moth. They burrow down as deep as 6" into the soil to avoid deep freeze. I had a big problem last year and removed the soil from the raised bed, screened it and replaced it. I found both borer grubs and Japanese Beetle Larva. The good news is that Borer larvae will dig-in very close to the infected plant, and don’t wander very far. I was never able to find an organic solution. Best bet is to keep the vines (joints) wrapped with aluminum foil, so that there’s no easy entry point for them.
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Thanks hotwired that is really some good information about wrapping the vines with aluminum foil. Do you start at the base where the squash comes out of the ground and how far up the vine? I guess I will have to dig the soil out and screen it for next year. You are so right about gardening keeping you in shape. Since I have been gardening this year I have lost 40 pounds, don’t know if it was the 60 tomato plants or all the potato’s or all the corn. I love gardening and it will definitely get you in shape and keep you there. We still have so many peppers and the green beans are still coming on, my squash in the main garden is now dead so much rain and an army of caterpillars. My one squash plant left is in the raised bed, always next year now I know what to do. Ellen from Georgia
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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My latest, greatest Zucchini plant, in which I had great hopes, just died overnight. It looks like squash borers got it too. Plus there were several triangular bugs crawling over it. I had sprayed it several times a week with pre-mixed Sevin, and I had hand-squished a number of those triangular bugs, hoping to get at least one Zucchini from this plant. All to no avail. Next year, aluminum foil, and perhaps Depleted Uranium!
I’ve read from several people how they planted Zucchini later in the season to avoid the borers. Looks from my experience that technique won’t work here for me.
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Hi Jim I have one squash plant left out of I don’t remember how many, next year it will be aluminum foil for sure. The squash plants are going to look like alien space ships that have landed in North East Georgia. If this is what it takes to finally get some squash, they will all have aluminum foil wrapped around them. This one lone maybe surviving squash plant might give me some squash only time will tell. I’m hoping all the rain we have had in the last three days have drowned some of these bores, one can only hope.Next year will be the year of the squash for me. Ellen
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Grandmother, I’m certainly not glad that you are frustrated. I am glad to hear that I’m not the only one with this recurring problem.
Earlier this season, I bought a nice big Zucchini at a Farmer’s Market for $4.00. I then picked and gave away two much smaller Zucchini in my garden, thinking that this year I’d have many more. Immediately all those Zucchini plants died due to stem borers. And now my latest (and last!) follow-on Z plant died overnight FRUSTRATION!
I have a little Z seedling currently growing in a little paper cup inside in my office under the shop lights. I wonder if I should plant it outside, totally wrapped in aluminum foil. Oops, wouldn’t that block out the sunlight that it needs to grow and produce? Not sure how it would grow indoors under my shop lights. I literally might give that a try rather than completely giving up on the Z this season. If the squash bugs and the squash stem borers got to it inside my house, then I don’t know what I’d think of to try next.
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Jim I can’t stay frustrated because that wouldn’t be good for my blood pressure and I’m not going to let the squash bore beat me. If I don’t succeed this year I will be more prepared for next year, just got to keep HOPE alive and keep on gardening. I’m not going to grow them inside, they are going out side no more for this year one lone surviving plant we will see if it makes it. Gardening is still FUN to me and I’m not going to give up and you shouldn’t either more research and keep plugging or should I say planting along. Ellen
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Thanks, Ellen. I have blood pressure issues, too.
Since my one remaining “house-broken” Zucchini plant has little blossoms on it, I think it may be getting ready to flower and perhaps even to bear fruit. I just repotted it up into a 1 lb. cottage cheese container and will see how it does indoors. I have many bush green beans and Sugar Snap Pea plants inside. So what’s one more growing plant that just happens to be a Zucchini?
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago | Last edited 8 months ago
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Jim.. Those triangular bug are squash bugs (AKA Stink Bugs). They lay their eggs on the under side of the leaves. When the eggs hatch, the larva can strip the leaves to wire-frames overnight. The eggs have a natural predator – ladybugs.
Jim.. Those triangular bug are squash bugs (AKA Stink Bugs). They lay their eggs on the under side of the leaves. When the eggs hatch, the larva can strip the leaves to wire-frames overnight. The eggs have a natural predator – ladybugs.The aluminum should go 1/4" to 1/2" below the soil level.
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago | Last edited 8 months ago
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Condolences all around! I’ve had only 1 year of experience with these little terrorists but, I was not plagued by them until into June. Meaning, April & May were my blissfully ignorant months with no SVBs in sight & beautiful zucchini. Now, of course they’re still infesting everything- I’m not even growing anymore squash- they don’t care. I’m wondering, since they’ve now been introduced to my beds, will they be an ever-present menace, even next April-May? Was that my 1 time reprieve? I have no idea what to expect next spring. Oh, and I had biblical swarms of ladybugs this last spring but they moved on by July-August- perhaps they did help…
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2 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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I looked around and found one photo of a foil-protected stem. It may have been a pumpkin, not a Zucchini. In the article, they mentioned that the foil also could help keep squash bugs off because they won’t climb the foil. Who knows?
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1 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Hi royceag I have only been seriously gardening for two years, the first year here was a disaster only thing to survive was the cucumbers. This year we moved to a new location and the soil was 100 % better, we had so many tomato’s,potato’s,green beans, peppers, jack beans, Chinese black beans. We lost most of the corn and are still waiting on sweet potato’s and more green beans. I have planted squash of all kinds four times, lost all of it except this one plant. You have to take out at least 6 inches of the soil and sift it through a screen, I’m going to do it but not plant any squash in the beds next year. I’m going to plant shallots , red onions, beets, radishes, lettuce, fennel, egg plant. The end of this month I’m going to plant some garlic. I just have to keep trying and not give up because gardening is my passion. This is a picture of the potato’s before they were dug up right next to the tomato jungle Ellen from Georgia
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Hi Jim thanks for the picture with the aluminum foil wrapped around the squash, I will be using this method next year. I have to give it a try and see if it works, but first I’m going to clean out my raised beds and add some more compost to the berm before it starts raining again. Ellen
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Jim at least you have it growing inside so cheer up. Gardening is a learning experience and we will all get through it. My motto is Gardening is FUN and I’m not giving up!! Remember tomorrow is another day save some for it, don’t try and conquer the whole garden in one day. I’m already planning what I’m going to grow in next year’s garden. I’m going to have so many jack beans going to send you some seeds. These are really very hardy plants and watching them grow has been a real pleasure, started in a little cup in the house now they are over 8 foot tall and still growing. Ellen
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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@ Ellen: are you eating Jack Beans? If so, how do you prepare them????
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1 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Jim: since the SVB life cycle is tied to the soil, how about a soilless hydroponic squash bed? Using river rock or pea gravel?
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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The moth that lays the SVB egg has wings. So soil-less medium isn’t really going to help unless you can locate it where the moths can’t reach it. Plus you have to water and feed it all the nutrients on a very tight schedule. Hydroponic plants are like dogs. You can’t leave them alone without food and water for a weekend.
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Hi Grandmother,
Well, from the photo, you’re doing a lot right! It’s so lush and green in that bed!
Wow, I have to screen 6 inches of soil for all my beds?!! That might just be too daunting of a task, even for my beloved zucchini. They are pretty cheap a Trader Joes. And, I ate so many yellow straightnecks & white scallops this year that I never want to see them again. As for the winter squash I grew, they were just meh- maybe it was my choice of seeds/varieties but, the ones at the farmers’ market are better. This is me, talking myself out of squash gardening. I bet it won’t stick!
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Grandmother,
I was looked back at this thread and saw that you mentioned losing 40 pounds this year- CONGRATULATIONS!!!! That’s quite a feat, you must be very proud! Keep up the excellent work.
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1 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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halhurst I have to wit for the vine to die before I can pick any of the pods, it has a 150 day growing cycle. It should be very soon because I planted them inside in March in small plastic cups should be in a week or two. You are suppose to mash the beans together into a patty and fry it, it takes the place of meat. A good friend of mine gave me these heirloom seeds she brought them from Florida, her grandfather gave them to her. I have never seen or hear of a jack bean until she gave them to me and I did some research on them,I will be saving seeds to use for trading. I will be trying some of the beans, I planted 6 and 5 survived they are a very hardy and fast growing vine. I have 2 going up an oak tree and 3 in front of the chicken coop growing up limbs we pounded into the ground. One is so heavy had to stake it up, I like to plant things I have never seen or heard of like the challenge, jack beans have been the easiest to take care of. anyone wants some of the seeds when they are ready let me know. Ellen
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Hi royceag Thanks I really didn’t know how much wight I had lost until I went to the Doctor’s office then the Doctor asked about my weight loss. I told her I have been working out in the garden since spring early March. It is helping control my blood pressure, maybe one day I can stop taking the pills. I will take the soil out and screen it but I will plant the squash some place else in the other garden area and use row covers and try the aluminum foil because I love squash any squash. I lost the last five plants pulled them up this morning. Too much rain and the caterpillars and squash bores are in an army now attack all plants. Well they aren’t touching all the peppers I have had to re stake them the rain and wind pushed them down to the ground. I picked 2 three gallon buckets this morning and gave them to my next door neighbor. Since I retired two years ago gardening in my passion just love working in it every day try and spend at least one hour a day in the garden. The picture taken with the lush green was potato’s on the right and the tomato jungle on the left, we planted 60 plants. We have canned, froze them, pickled them tried a recipe I found on a blog that the Russians use no water bath needed really a good one. Found these really red peppers on the bush this morning hope they are sweet and not hot. Trying to figure out what the name of this pepper is? Ellen
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Grandmother,
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royceag I really don’t think my thumbs are green it is that I don’t give up no matter what. I have lost lots of plants but just keep trying, had lots of help with the garden my grand kids and my son in law they have all been a big help. We planted the corn, green beans, tomato’s and peppers all together. Now the squash and jack beans I did by myself they don’t like squash and won’t try a jack bean. Thanks that is great to hear that you have green thumbs, it helps especially when you start to think of what was lost but I don’t want to dwell on it. I’m planning my spring garden already, in the fall garden is broccoli, spinach, green beans and soon garlic.The peppers keep on coming on I really like the banana peppers and have plenty of them, back to pickling them and freezing some. Ellen
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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I have an experiment underway to see if my window screens, closed doors, brick walls, etc. can keep the Squash Borer Flying Egg-Distributors away from my one remaining Zucchini plant!
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1 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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@ grandmother: I read that Jack Beans contained toxins. How do you remove them?
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago | Last edited 8 months ago
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Hi Jim let me know if this experiment works, I had to pull up the five I planted down in the garden. There is one left in the raised bed, I will check on it this after noon before the rain starts again. Are you growing the zucchini under grow lights? Post a picture, I have never used grow lights before, just used the room in the house that was the warmest and had the most sun light. This one was taken inside the green house early May. Ellen
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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halhurst I haven’t read that, I read jack beans were also used for medicine will have to go and do more research. Thanks for the information, will get back to you. Ellen
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Grandmother, count yourself Very lucky to have a greenhouse!
What I have is a 48 inch wide by 72 inch tall by 18 inch deep wire shelving unit in my Office, next to the West-facing window. It has 3 shop lights hanging from the top-most shelf, and 2 shop lights hanging from the shelf below that. Yes, a timer to turn the lights on and off. There is a ceiling fan in the office that I run 24/7 to keep air moving. So far it seems to work well for starting seeds and for growing 6, count them, 6 green beans, with more following, plus some blossoms on the sugar snap pea plants!
This particular photo does not specifically show the Zucchini plant. It’s in there in among the beans, sugar snap peas, Tomatoes, fall broccoli seedlings, and lettuce. Most of my plants are growing in 1 pound cottage cheese containers filled with some bagged potting mix sitting in 4-6 quart dish-washing pans to catch the water and to allow them to be turned 180 degrees daily to even out the lighting.
I don’t get much sunlight from the window because it’s shaded by CrepeMyrtles. I’ll get a little more when the leaves fall, but then the sun won’t come very far north, so not much sun then either!
Fortunately or unfortunately, the shelves are getting pretty full of nice green growing plants. I really cannot start much more there till some of them mature. I do have several CFL bulbs and an extension cord that I can use for extra light, perhaps on one of the other shelves in case of too many growing plants emergency!
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1 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Jim that is a nice set up you have there, like it. My green house will come in handy this spring it doesn’t have heat or water but it does have a window on top to open. It was a birthday gift from my daughters, they got a good deal shipping was free. It is 6 by 6 which is fine by me and my son in law built some shelves to go in it, right now it is a holding area for garden tools and wood stakes. We took up all the tomato plants tonight all being eaten by too many caterpillars and too much rain so many rotted. But have you ever thought of a small hoop house? I think they are cheaper then the green house and sometimes you can find used ones. I check the Market Bulletin every two weeks here in Georgia. It is a small newspaper that has so many things in it for farmers, homesteaders and people that love to garden. Send me your address I will send you one. Ellen
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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halhurst found a site that talks about jack beans and sword beans very informative go to www.greenculturesg.com/articles/feb07/swordbean. You can’t eat them raw and must soak them over night in water and discard the water. I will research some more on how to cook them, the jack bean is seldom bothered by pest that attack the other plants like green beans and tomato’s. Ellen
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1 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Grandmother Ellen, a small hoop house sure sounds nice, but not compared to a Divorce! A guy’s got to know his limits!
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Thank you, Ellen; God bless you and keep you healthy.
Jim, I know what you mean, my DW is highly skeptical at times concerning my (according to her) outlandish projects. Like Dirty Harry once said, a man’s gotta know his limitations. So I make compromises, when absolutely necessary, to keep the woman happy, who, whatever her faults, is pretty good at tolerating mine.
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago | Last edited 8 months ago
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I’m a huge fan of the Grow-It Greenhouse in a box system. They’re really built to last. I use their Carport frames for my hardening hoophouse and to handle overflow from my greenhouse. I have two 10′×20′ frames setup end-to-end for my tomatoes. The 10×10 greenhouses are under $240.
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1 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago | Last edited 8 months ago
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Hi hotwired that sounds like a really good deal for $240.00. Couldn’t you build a hoop house out of PVC pipe? I don’t know if that would be any cheaper or not. Jim your right every body has to know their limits, that is how we all get along in this world. Jim you still can look to see if you can find a hoop house or small green house used. If you want to look at the Market Bulletin you can look on line also. All tomato plants cut down last night, too many rotten ones and too many insects eating what was left. So what we have left is sweet potato’s,jack beans,broccoli, and spinach oh yeah the one squash plant is still hanging on. Ellen
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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You can build a frame out of PVC, except you have to paint it before installing the greenhouse film. Chemicals in PVC will interact with the chemicals in the plastic film and it won’t last over 3 months in the sun. I bought 4 portable 10×20 carports at Pep Boys on Black Friday for $99.00 each. The frames are 2" diameter steel and built like a tank. I covered them with greenhouse film, which gives me an additional 800 square feet of greenhouse. I hope to have tomatoes and peppers well into December in the snow. I have 2 tomato plants & 4 pepper plants in my greenhouse, for tomatoes & peppers all winter. I’m heating my greenhouse with a pellet stove and my hoophouses with a $39.00 barrel stove.
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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hotwired okay didn’t know about the paint on the PVC, will have to keep that in mind about the portable 10×20 carports, so when I want the next green house just get the portable car port frame and my son in law can put it up. He assembled the one we have now, it was quiet a job and he never lost his patience or gave up then he built the shelves to go inside.I will have to tell him about this project he is looking for some place to keep the lemon tree’s and the avocado tree during the winter. Thanks Ellen
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This is the first year I lost plants to SVB…I had spaghetti squash and pumpkins in a brand new bed. I generally have pretty good luck planting squash late, and surrounded by lots of nasturtiums, radishes, catnip, and tansy. Then again I don’t live in Alabama, where I think there can be multiple generations of SVB in a season.
Some varieties of squash are more resistant to SVB than others, particularly C. moschata species. (There’s a nice chart that summarizes this here .) I’ve grown tromboncino squash in the past, and I suspect they would do even better in your longer and hotter growing season. They are delicious, particularly when harvested small, and taste like a slightly firmer, nuttier summer squash or zucchini. They grow best as a trellised vine, which would be good for your limited space situation, and the vines are actually very attractive. They can easily cover a fence or wall, and the blossoms are some of the biggest I’ve ever seen – 10" across sometimes.
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2 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Hi vaericks I have never heard of a tromboncino squash what does it look like? What do they taste like? It sounds like the jack bean that really climbs and has big green leaves and purple flowers. I finally picked some tonight the pods were like leather, so they are ready to save. There are so many more on the vines. I would like to learn more about this squash, very interested send a picture. Thanks Ellen from Georgia
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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If you click on tromboncino squash it will take you to a whole page of articles about the squash.
This is a picture of a couple of mine that I let get completely ripe.
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Hey there vaericks! Thanks so very much for that link to the organic control of the Squash Bug and Squash Borers.PDF http://localfoodhub.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/SquashBug_SquashVineBorer_OrganicControls_ATTRA.pdf
I read it and I found it very informative, but also very discouraging.
My wife has seen my angst over losing my entire Zucchini crop two years in a row, and she suggested that we just stop growing Zucchini here in Huntsville, Alabama. She may well be right.
Regardless of what I do, there are enough other gardens around to supply these crawling and flying bugs adinfinitum and beyond! I tried Sevin (definitely Not organic!) this year sprayed directly on the squash bugs with no noticeable effect. When I squished them with my green thumb, they did die.
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Hi vaericks thanks for the information strange looking squash, gonna try it next year maybe I will have better luck with it then all the early squash or patty pan squash, zuchinni, and Tennessee squash all gone now thanks to the squash bore. So it is time for a change, all my hot peppers have survived this insect. Ellen from Georgia
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Jim have you tried a soil blocker? I found it on Johnny"s Selected Seeds site you need to look at it. I’m thinking of using it next year instead of cups and dirt, making my own soil blockers and putting the seed inside of it. Something to think about!! Less shock when you transplant them and better then a bunch of cups or I think so you look at let me know. Ellen from Georgia
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Grandmother, I read what you wrote, but I don’t get it. How would planting my seeds in pre-pressed blocks of potting soil keep away the squash vine borers? I’m probably missing something here.
I talked to Corry at The Catbird Seat again yesterday about my Zucchini losses to the squash vine borers and how even the latest, greatest Zucchini got destroyed. How I was trying to grow one Z plant indoors as a last resort! He told me that once the borers got established, that they would be a continuous threat to my Z for the rest of the season. That delaying planting them would not help in any way.
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Grandmother…. Not sure how starter blocks will solve SVB problems, but you are right that transplant shock will stunt growth for a week each time you disturb roots. I do it the other way around with a molded popsicle stick.
Jim… I wouldn’t give up on Zucchini until I gave the aluminum foil a try. -
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Jim no I didn’t mean soil blockers would get rid of the squash bore, only that I’m tired of using a bunch of plastic cups and don’t like peat pots. So when I found these soil blockers on Johnny’s Seed’s I thought you might be interested also. I’m going to give them a try this Spring instead of the tray full of plastic cups. Let me know what you think. hotwired I have never seen a seedling around a molded Popsicle stick Ellen
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Jim found a site for you to look at face book at look at heirloom seed swappers site. There is an article there about praying Mantids and how they eat the squash bore. I’m going to look for the praying mantids nest in my yard and move them to my raised beds. I’m really willing to try any thing with in reason to see if it works. How about you? This is a picture of Sapote seeds it is a tropical fruit, I’m going to try and grow this tree.
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Hotwired’s bondo and popcycle stick plug looks like a terrific idea to me. Now I wish that all the planting trays I have were all the same size and shape. But they are not! I’d need to make a whole family of bondo/sticks. Or perhaps make one that’s a bit larger than all the trays. Push it to make a large hole, then back-fill with potting mix. Hey! that might be a non-root-disturbing idea!
Praying mantis predators sounds great. You have to remember that predators like that reproduce slower than do their prey. And they only eat some of the prey, not nearly all of them. So even if you had a large population of Preying Mantis in your garden, only some of the borers, in whatever stage they are subject to being caught and eaten, would be eaten. The rest would go ahead happily destroying your stems and preparing for the next season.
I have a small Zucchini plant growing inside in my office, under lights. It has some blossoms forming very close to the ground, very near to the leaf stems. I’m not sure I see how I’d ever wrap aluminum foil around those tiny short stems. Not sure if I could even paint something on, if I knew of what would protect the stems without affecting the blossoms. Might something like Crazy String or self-foaming insulation work? Seems like you’d need something flexible that could “grow” with the stem. Suggestions anyone?
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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Jim the praying mantis is really the best one then the aluminum foil. Jim use small needle pliers or tweezers, we have to become Plant Doctor and try any thing with in reason and these two are with in reason. I really don’t think self foaming insulation would work on live plants, or crazy string . Don’t both of these products have chemicals in them? Yeah I like Hot wired’s also and i willing to try it on some of the seedlings. I usually have 3 trays full of seedlings so I can try both of these and see which one I like the best, these trays are sheet pans from a Restaurant Supply store. Ellen
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0 thumbs up!Posted 8 months ago
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SVB is also a major problem in my area (Houston TX). I’ve given up growing regular zukes because they always fail.
My new strategy is to plant resistant squash varieties instead of zukes.
Besides the tromboncino squash vaericks mentioned which is borer resistant and yummy, I have some green thumbed friends who say that tatume squash is also borer resistant. And so is Seminole squash, they say.
Tatume and Seminole squash are supposed to be borer resistant due to the thick stems they form and multiple rootings along the stem.
From the article linked below….“‘Tatume’ is a squash variety that possesses all of the traits that make squash one of my favorite summer vegetables to grow. It is hardy and productive, and usually almost immune to the squash borer insect (Melitta curcurbitae, a clear-wing moth), which makes it a reliable garden vegetable in infested areas.”
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/newsletters/hortupdate/2010/jun/tatume.html
Not currently growing any squash, but the next time I do plant squash my chosen varieties are going to be Tatume, tromboncino, and Seminole. :)
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Thanks Green Guy for the information,I’m going to try Baker Creek they carried lots of heirloom seeds. I have a catalog from 2011 going to look in it , that would be great resistant to the squash bore. I have plenty of room for the vines to run, I want to try all the varieties of squash that are resistant to the squash bore. That is why I was so happy with the jack bean no problems with insects and really took the drought good. My garden is empty now except for the peppers and the sweet potato’s in a box, well and the 1 lone squash in a raised bed don’t know how it has survived have to check on it today. Ellen from Georgia
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